Comments on: The Sorcerer on the Golden Horn http://orthodoxhistory.org/2009/12/15/the-sorcerer-on-the-golden-horn/ The Society for Orthodox Christian History in the Americas Wed, 08 May 2013 13:30:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: camniomedia http://orthodoxhistory.org/2009/12/15/the-sorcerer-on-the-golden-horn/comment-page-1/#comment-540 camniomedia Fri, 08 Jan 2010 01:50:45 +0000 http://orthodoxhistory.org/?p=1601#comment-540 interesting story

]]> By: Fr. Andrew S. Damick http://orthodoxhistory.org/2009/12/15/the-sorcerer-on-the-golden-horn/comment-page-1/#comment-447 Fr. Andrew S. Damick Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:01:56 +0000 http://orthodoxhistory.org/?p=1601#comment-447 Thanks for the correction, Isa! I’ve noted it in the text.

]]> By: Isa Almisry http://orthodoxhistory.org/2009/12/15/the-sorcerer-on-the-golden-horn/comment-page-1/#comment-446 Isa Almisry Wed, 16 Dec 2009 04:28:45 +0000 http://orthodoxhistory.org/?p=1601#comment-446 Actually, the story before this one in Échos d’Orient is interesting: it is the story of what became the Tomos of 1908.

]]> By: Isa Almisry http://orthodoxhistory.org/2009/12/15/the-sorcerer-on-the-golden-horn/comment-page-1/#comment-445 Isa Almisry Wed, 16 Dec 2009 04:19:16 +0000 http://orthodoxhistory.org/?p=1601#comment-445 “ordained priest by Mgr. Joachim Phouropolos, a Metropolitan expelled from a Monastery [métropolite expulsé de Monastir],”

No, “expelled from Monastir” (Present day Bitola, Macedonia). My guess is that he was expelled because of the jurisdictional disunity there: besides the Phanar (the Turks of course classed all the Christians as “Millet-i Rum”), the Church of Romania (a majority of the population was Vlach), the Church of Serbia (including not only the local Serbs but also the Macedonians the Serbs were claiming), and the Bulgarian Exarchate (which claimed the local Bulgarians and the Macedonians too) competed for jurisdiction. The place was well known, being “the city of Consuls”-it had 12.

Fortescue has a contemporary account of the squabble in the area, where a Greek Metropoitan was booted from Uskub (Skopje) to Manastir to make way for a Serb bishop, causing the local Greeks to go into schism.
http://books.google.ro/books?id=Gu5d7_bByvIC&pg=PA327&lpg=PA327&dq=Fortescue+Monastir&source=bl&ots=Kv_KHJ0Cia&sig=nnJqJq5mgTlZyYHt7eD_9tsTnKk&hl=ro&ei=VCsoS5OuJNWsngfK_rCkDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CA0Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Monastir&f=false

And a black comedy of a Romanian there remaining unburied because the clergy refused to bury him in anything but Greek:
http://books.google.ro/books?id=UPr1ZCxPW6QC&pg=PA333&dq=Fortescue+Nothing+could+be+more+Greek&cd=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Fortescue predicted that at least two new autocephalous Churches (Romanian, Serbian) would arise in the area. The Balkan Wars and WWI prevented that. However, Manastir was purchased from the Phanar by the new united Patriarch of Serbia, without reference to Bulgarian cliams, which is how it now is involved in the Macedonian/Serbian Church dispute today.

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