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	<title>Comments on: Orthodoxy and Theosophy: the Vera Johnston story</title>
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		<title>By: Fr. Oliver Herbel</title>
		<link>http://orthodoxhistory.org/2010/08/05/orthodoxy-and-theosophy-the-vera-johnston-story/comment-page-1/#comment-1141</link>
		<dc:creator>Fr. Oliver Herbel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 04:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I should clarify, I am aware of the HOOM to Christ the Savior Brotherhood.  What I&#039;ve not researched is Vera Johnston and Theosophy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should clarify, I am aware of the HOOM to Christ the Savior Brotherhood.  What I&#8217;ve not researched is Vera Johnston and Theosophy.</p>
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		<title>By: Fr. Oliver Herbel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fr. Oliver Herbel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 04:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmm.  I&#039;ve not researched this at all, but there may be something about Orthodoxy that attracts people on the religiously exploratory fringes.  Just think of former HOOM people and former drifting hippies we now have in Orthodoxy.  I raise this NOT to detract from the legitimacy of such journeys but only to note a possible pattern, here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm.  I&#8217;ve not researched this at all, but there may be something about Orthodoxy that attracts people on the religiously exploratory fringes.  Just think of former HOOM people and former drifting hippies we now have in Orthodoxy.  I raise this NOT to detract from the legitimacy of such journeys but only to note a possible pattern, here.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Namee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Namee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 19:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No kidding? What a story!

Fr. Patrick Mythen, about whom I&#039;ve written in the past, also had a connection to a Theosophist pseudo-Christian body in California prior to becoming Orthodox. This group apparently was a rival to the New York pseudo-Christian group that the Johnstons were involved with. Mythen doesn&#039;t seem to have had deep ties to Theosophy, but it&#039;s another connection.

Perhaps we shouldn&#039;t be surprised, though -- after all, Theosophy was founded by a women from the Russian Empire, who was quite likely born Orthodox.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No kidding? What a story!</p>
<p>Fr. Patrick Mythen, about whom I&#8217;ve written in the past, also had a connection to a Theosophist pseudo-Christian body in California prior to becoming Orthodox. This group apparently was a rival to the New York pseudo-Christian group that the Johnstons were involved with. Mythen doesn&#8217;t seem to have had deep ties to Theosophy, but it&#8217;s another connection.</p>
<p>Perhaps we shouldn&#8217;t be surprised, though &#8212; after all, Theosophy was founded by a women from the Russian Empire, who was quite likely born Orthodox.</p>
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		<title>By: Isa Almisry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isa Almisry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 15:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, because evidently the Theosophists lingered on.  At least according to a story told me by the Hieromonk Hillary of Holy Trinity Cathedral.  Once, while he and HG + John Garklavs of Chicago were going through things, His Grace opened a box of ripped vestments and a miter which had been punched in, and asked Fr. Hillary if he could repair or do something with them, as they had been laying in a closet for decades. When asked what had happened to them, he told the following story.

Back when HG had first come to Chicago in the late 40&#039;s, the ecclesisatical situation was rather fluid and confused.  A delegation of some purported parisioners came to the home where the bishop was, identifed themselves as a parish, and asked the bishop for a visitation, to which he agreed.

He came to the parish, and was vested with due ceremony. He was about to proceed with the service when someone told him &quot;No, Vladika, we have to bring in the prophetess first.&quot;

&quot;The what?&quot;

So in the midst of the Church HG saw them process in with a woman wearing some robes indicating some office, and install her in a place of honor near the iconostasis.

So, Archb. John of blessed memory said, HG could only follow biblical precedent.  He rent and ripped his vestments off, took his miter and punched it, threw them down in disgust and stormed out.

A few days later, a box came in the mail with the vestments folded in them, with the miter on top.

What exactly they believed, Fr. Hillary didn&#039;t say, but he identified them as Theosophists.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, because evidently the Theosophists lingered on.  At least according to a story told me by the Hieromonk Hillary of Holy Trinity Cathedral.  Once, while he and HG + John Garklavs of Chicago were going through things, His Grace opened a box of ripped vestments and a miter which had been punched in, and asked Fr. Hillary if he could repair or do something with them, as they had been laying in a closet for decades. When asked what had happened to them, he told the following story.</p>
<p>Back when HG had first come to Chicago in the late 40&#8242;s, the ecclesisatical situation was rather fluid and confused.  A delegation of some purported parisioners came to the home where the bishop was, identifed themselves as a parish, and asked the bishop for a visitation, to which he agreed.</p>
<p>He came to the parish, and was vested with due ceremony. He was about to proceed with the service when someone told him &#8220;No, Vladika, we have to bring in the prophetess first.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The what?&#8221;</p>
<p>So in the midst of the Church HG saw them process in with a woman wearing some robes indicating some office, and install her in a place of honor near the iconostasis.</p>
<p>So, Archb. John of blessed memory said, HG could only follow biblical precedent.  He rent and ripped his vestments off, took his miter and punched it, threw them down in disgust and stormed out.</p>
<p>A few days later, a box came in the mail with the vestments folded in them, with the miter on top.</p>
<p>What exactly they believed, Fr. Hillary didn&#8217;t say, but he identified them as Theosophists.</p>
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		<title>By: greggo</title>
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		<dc:creator>greggo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 22:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You might want to explore the Liberal Catholic Church and the Liberal Catholic Church International]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might want to explore the Liberal Catholic Church and the Liberal Catholic Church International</p>
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